Is it really Atheism?
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I just participated in two forums here in Hubpages and it gave me incredible insights on the kind of people who spend hours debunking the existence of Gd and invalidating religion.
Even as explanations are put forth that the bible is a compilation of myths written by many people over
different periods of time. It is not enough, they continue to denounce it and everything that is Gd. Logic has already established that it is a piece of literature written by humans and yet they continue to chant its evils. This is about as productive as spending time calling Shakespearean sonnets as bad, bad, bad! There is something going on here that is more internal than it seems and I wince when a well meaning religious person makes a mistake of giving the atheist an excuse to vent his anger on his non-god.
Gd, according to the esoteric tradition, is an embodiment of the potential of man to master himself thereby mastering all forces present in his life. Whenever Gd is mentioned in the bible, it means in mystical terms, an aspect of that empowered Self.
So when the scriptures says "There is no god, but Gd" what its really saying is: The "I am" is the authority. This means,that the unbounded Self, free from past or future, becomes all powerful.
Religion
came from ideologies presented by luminaries who have formed an
empowering world view. Sometimes people get it, sometimes people don't.
The ideology of Judaism is ETHICS (action of goodness).
The ideology of Hinduism is BALANCE (acceptance of good and evil).
The ideology of Christianity is LOVE (ethics like you mean it).
The ideology of Buddhism is HARMONY (all is good).
The ideology of Islam is PIETY (goodness in action).
The ideology of Janism is ASCETISM (inaction is the ultimate goodness in action).
A
person truly free from external ideologies does not need to spend time
invalidating religion or Gd. He just acts like there is no authority nor positive force out there other than himself. So its up to him to take action, promote harmony, love what
he loves, balance the forces in his own life and practice his own code of ethics that make him feel empowered and at peace.
People
who spend time battling Gd externally is battling an inner self that is looming unacknowledged within them-- it is an angry godself, locked in the suffering of the past and is fearful of the future. This is a seed of the power he must face within him that requires him to be larger than his present conception of self. I find that atheism can sometimes be the first step to
piecing together a fragmented self that was assaulted by external
ideologies.It is a wasteland of a devastated world view. But like, Tohu and Bohu, the waste and the emptiness is the beginning of light, of a breakthrough. The mantra " There is no G_D" must continue to "...other than the "I am", (the aspect of self that exists unbounded by the past and the future) in order for atheism to graduate to true freedom from the external god of others.
The experience of wholeness does not have to pass through complete fragmentation. Sometimes a person just suddenly sees that he is not separate from his world and others after all. That feeling of wholeness can also come from the idea
that We are THAT which we call Gd. Gd is the embodiment of our mastery. That whatever we do, we can do as Gd, as a powerful being unbounded by the past and the future, claiming authority to bestow good unto ourselves and others.
Some go through atheism for short periods, some become fragmented all their lives. Unless one's atheism grows into true accountability, it is just a shadow theism that has not been fully overcome. The strongest argument of atheists is this: "If there is a god, why is there suffering on this earth." An unfortunate question because the answer does not usually come. "Believers" usually have no answer to that because they grapple with that concept themselves. But what this question really means is this : "Gd, why are you letting me suffer, if you exist?Prove to me that you exist and end my suffering." The suffering is projected on to the external world. It is a cry to be saved because the idea is, that he needs to be saved. Why? because he does not know how he can save himself. The forces of the world are overwhelming him.
The thing is, he must realize that the world changes as he changes how he perceives the world. Physics has proven this truth at the level of energies. The breakthrough is, whatever you observe, changes it. The act of observation creates a chain of events that influences the behavior of energy.
The highest name of the Judeo-Christian Gd is YHVH, a name which is never spoken by the Jews. To Christians, it has come to mean "I am that am". But what does it really mean? In Hebrew the words are defined by their letters. Each letter used to be pictographs that communicate ideas as well as sounds. The pictographs that describe this highest name of Gd means : "I Behold, and lo!" -- whatever the self observes, becomes. It is never spoken because it is not a word but an act. The most powerful act of man is to observe within himself the power that he seeks.
So to end the suffering in this world,according to the mystics, be that who you seek Gd to be. That is the call of your internal godself. That angry punitive god you disdain is actually within you, seeking to destroy the idols that you've allowed others to build within your own soul.
As a student of the esoteric, the best way I can describe this journey is to quote the song from a Broadway play entitled Starlight Express:
Rusty the train: "Starlight Express, you must confess,are you real yes or no? Starlight express please answer me yes, i don't want you to go"
Starlight Express: "Only you have the power within you.Just believe in yourself the sea will part before you. Stop the rain and turn the tide...Only you, Rusty, I am You and only you!"
In the Upanishad period, this wisdom is found in one of the Veda's grand pronouncement:
"Tat Tvam Asi, You are that."
To cut the long story short, this is my message to the atheists :
You want something done, you've got to do it yourself! Wrap your logical brains around that.
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The "Yin Yang" theory would provide better harmony than this... Once you include the factors of "fear & control" that is often found within organized religions, it sort of de-mystifies its supposed intent or symbolism. Either way, it was a decent hub worthy of reading. ;)
The Chinese "Yin Yang" theories compared to Buddhism are in different relation from the original Taoist tradition...
This is a very interesting and deep article. Thank you for publishing this piece.
"Unless one's atheism grows into true accountability, it is just a shadow theism that has not been fully overcome." That is a key sentence in this Hub, at least for me. The point is that we all project parts of ourselves onto others, be it God or our enemies or our friends. Those parts of ourselves that we find it difficult to accept. Then we can blame the other for whatever is making us unhappy or ill or whatever. Unless we can accept those parts of ourselves back into ourselves again we will always be fragmented and uneasy. Part of that accepting back of those "unacceptable" parts of ourselves is taking accountability for who we are and what we do. When we can, as a wise person once said, stop saying "It got lost" and say "I lost it." That is adulthood, and wholeness. And it is a huge challenge!
Thanks for sharing this deep article, as James has said. It contains a lot of wisdom
Love and peace
Tony
Interestingly I have found time and time again that it is the atheists who do align to self empowerment and don't need to use the term God. Time and time again those saying they are 'religious' look to an external deity for their empowerment and do not apply mythical (biblical) teachings to their own lives. Herein lies the conundrum - who is the more 'spiritual'? It's a statement, not a question by the way. One can have major knowledge on religious topics, quote scriptures and understand traditions, but unless the teachings are applied personally at a feeling and transformational level, it is just intellect and not experience.
Beautifully written. Religion is too universal to be so easily dismissed. For me, it's about meaning. The various religions are maps. Of course the map is not the road itself, but it points the way. Among other things, Atheism is a lack of humility in some way. If we assume that logical thinking only will reveal truth, then it makes sense. But the notion that logical reasoning is the only way to reveal truth is itself an assumption.
ceciliabeltran
This is not personal, it is just a comment based on what I thought after reading this hub. It isn't even meant to change your belief, it is just my opinion.
There is just no real evidence to connect the Old Testament and or the New Testament to a Real God.
Putting down challenges to these documents shows insecurity of your belief in these documents.
If these documents were the truth, they could be questioned by anyone for any reason. Limiting or forbidding criticism of these documents is a direct contradiction to the belief of free will.
Like Shakespeare's words and those of Bill Clinton and Barrack Obama they can dazzle and seem real, but in the end they lose their luster and their meaning.
Good people don't treat people like the biblical God treats people. There is no way that people would take the bad deeds or sins of their parents and treat the children as if they committed these bad deeds.
The concept of original sin would never make it to a law in civilzed society, yet it is the basic foundation of Christianity.
Were Cain's children treated as murderers?
People today don't even have the same genetic DNA as Adam and Eve. The whole ooncept of creating Eve from the rib or Adam would at best have produced a clone of Adam. After that the only way to procreate was through incest, but somewhere along the way new DNA found its way into the incestous cycle.
Sure the bible has stories about why this was possible, but they are just stories.
Quoting chapter and verse from documents that haven't changed in at least two thousand years doesn't make it true.
Christ didn't convince the chosen people, the Jews, don't you find that troubling? The Jews are stil waiting for their prophet.
Hmmmmmmmm...
Okay...Something like each peice is part of the whole.
Like um...all roads lead to Jesus. Something like that.
I am a Christian but I see the logic of what you've written.
Interesting.
What destiny can a fetus have that is terminated before it can survive?
What destiny can a baby have that will die before it can even talk?
What destiny can a young child have that will die before it reaches puberty?
Very poetic article. I agree that atheism requires just as much blind faith as any religion, because there is no evidence for its claim. But beyond that, I fail to see why a neutral observer is compelled to accept one system of blind faith over another, or any system of blind faith at all.
It is all very poetic and romantic, and that doesn't diminish it at all. Imagination, fantasy, dreams, wonder--all of these things are essential and vital parts of the human experience. But they are what they are, not legitimate systems for a rigorous understanding of reality.
Thank you for stating these ideas so eloquently, you have hit upon a very deep concept of the nature of people. I really enjoyed reading this. Thank you for sharing.
Very thought provoking hub.
Because of problems in my live I have often questioned the existance of a god.But eventually came to realise that I needed to believe there was something more than me controlling my existance on this earth and to help me on my journey through life.
Very interesting concepts, ceciliabeltran. I'll be taking these things into consideration as I also read from the sources you've pointed out to me in correspondence. Man, there's so many perspectives...but I'm finding - there are also reasonable and unreasonable perspectives. I like how you offered, on this hub, ways for us to think about the intended focus for different religions ie: ""The ideology of Judaism is ETHICS (action of goodness).
The ideology of Hinduism is BALANCE (acceptance of good and evil).
The ideology of Christianity is LOVE (ethics like you mean it).
The ideology of Buddhism is HARMONY (all is good).
The ideology of Islam is PIETY (goodness in action).
The ideology of Janism is ASCETISM (inaction is the ultimate goodness in action).""
Thx again!
I loved your article ceciliabeltran and I do not want to be taken by the eternal argument over the existence of God.
When we identify with God, we identify with a spiritual possibility and for the theist it is more easier than the atheist since the atheist is a sceptic and wont take the theist's word about God to develop faith, and character for a spiritual orientation.But needs to develop a spiritual orientation all the same.
The atheist must have an example or ideal otherwise it becomes quite difficult.
All theists have a claim to religious texts and scripture to develop faith and promote belief.
A true atheist has no right to religious text.
However it is wholly an abstraction.
Practically, it does not even matter.
Ethical behaviour and goodness is all that matter.
And today's world does not exemplify ethical behaviour or goodness, with so many god-believer's around.
We overpopulate the planet, destroy habitat of animals, wreck the environment of the planet, exploit natural resources and have put the ecological system of the planet in peril.
IF THERE IS A GOD THE FIRST THING HE WOULD DO IS - TEACH US A LESSON AND SAVE THE PLANET FROM OUR HANDS FOR THE REST OF THE SPECIES....he created and we made extinct.
So When GOOD Behaviour and Ethical action is impossible due to sheer weight of human population...GOD can only belong to every life form that is non-human since they are theones who are truly innocent.


















Tammy Lochmann Level 2 Commenter 2 years ago
Wow I really enjoyed reading this. Thanks for making me think this morning.